Monday, September 22, 2008

Okay, so I'm breaking out of my break temporarily to address a comment I received yesterday that left me a little perplexed (among other things).

In case you missed it, "Anonymous" wrote the following:
Sounds like someone has hurt your feelings by commenting on your blogs or in some other fashion. The answer is not to quit blogging, which is the same as running from problems or issues. Kinda the way you did with your church.
Well, I refrained from responding at first (let's just say it wouldn't have been pretty), but since the comment was posted anonymously and I have no other recourse to answer its allegations I decided to make a few observations here...

1. While I appreciate the commenter's evident desire for me to continue blogging, his/her comment does little to promote such. In fact, it has the opposite effect.

2. I did not "quit" blogging, but instead chose to take a break. I am not taking a break due to hurt feelings, blog related or otherwise. BUT EVEN IF I DID, it is still MY blog! I can blog if I want; I can quit if I want and for whatever reason I want. This is not the newspaper; no one has paid a subscription; I owe no one anything. It's my hobby and one that I have all prerogative to lay down or pick up again as the whim strikes.

3. If the commenter thinks that we left our former church merely to run from problems or issues, he/she has grossly misunderstood our heart and our situation, just as I feared in this post. Do not think we are sitting high and mighty, easy as you please. Our obedience has been costly and is not easy, not in the least. Leaving is one of the hardest things I have ever done. EVER. You can be assured of this: we are wholeheartedly and unreservedly seeking the Lord Jesus Christ and we believe we are following Him. That does not suppose or assume that those in our former church are not; we cannot speak on their behalf. In fact, if any of my sisters and brothers from my former church are reading this, please know this: I am grateful for the years we served and sought the Lord together and I pray we all see the Lord at work in ways we could not imagine! For His glory and His alone!

4. It's interesting to me that although this commenter has some knowledge of me and our situation and is in fact local (according to sitemeter), he/she chose to cast their stone anonymously. If he/she did not want to identify themselves on the blog, my email address is conveniently located in my profile. Since he/she knows me, why not let me know them?

I'm hurt, yes, and no doubt that hurt has crept into my words here lending them a defensive tone. For that, I apologize.

And now we resume our regularly scheduled break.

36 comments:

  1. Lisa:

    Remember James said that we should count all trials as joy and this (albeit a very small and menial jab) is a trial to test faith. Words do hurt, let's not kid ourselves. But, be happy that by your faithfulness God is using this to draw you closer to him!

    As for the anonymous person, I echo Lisa's comments. I do have one question for you though. Do you proclaim Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? If so, did your action of posting this silly comment glorify Him or would it be pleasing to Him? I believe we would all agree that it does not, so I rebuke you for this attempt to hinder a follower of Jesus Christ! Shame on you! I pray that God will show you that the emotion that has swelled inside you to cause such action be revealed openly to you in order for sanctification and ultimately HIS GLORY.

    Keep up the good work Lisa and I look forward to you returning to this hobby of blogging that has helped so many in their walk with Christ!

    Matt Colvin
    Idd@farmerstel.com

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  2. Amen sister...it's amazing how brave people can be when they are anonymous. It is your blog and you can do with it what you please. I will miss reading while you are on break! Your writing and the way you live your life for God inspires me to seek Him more. Thanks for being you and a sister in Christ...

    Ally

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  3. As someone who was once in your position, I know your heart to be in the right place in desiring God's glory above all else. Unfortunately, sometimes when people are striving to do God's will, they are misunderstood.

    It would be more productive and fruitful if we believed one another when we say, "I'm trying to do God's will and it hurts - be patient." For me, it's almost a sure fire sign that someone IS in the will of God when they say that they are hurting because of what they feel led to do.

    God doesn't always ask us to do the easy stuff. Sometimes (most times, it seems?) He asks for sacrifice of feelings, thoughts, energy and emotions. Obeying Him costs and costs dearly. But for the joy of the end we press on for that prize!

    I imagine that commentor also feels some pain in the situation and is therefore lashing out. I feel sorry for them.

    Lisa, be encouraged! You just keep doing what you know is right -- chasing dreams and visions that God has placed within your heart. It's all for His glory so never fear. In the meantime, I will just keep on praying!!! God bless you today and every day as you seek after Him. You will find Him and He will give you rest. He will allow you to dance again so just sit tight and be obedient.

    You are doing beautifully. Really, you are!

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  4. A very appropriate and graceful response, Lisa. It is your blog, and while I love reading your thoughts, the blog is something for you to use / maintain as needed, not something for you to serve. Take all the time you need.

    I also feel it is obvious to anyone who has read about your recent struggles, that you are not a quitter, not a runner. Your desire to follow the Lord is evident in every post, and I know your decisions have only been reached through heartbreak and much, much prayer.

    Praying for you.

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  5. Lisa,

    I know how you've struggled but more than anything I know the heart you have for Christ and how desperately you want to do what is right for you personally and for your family.

    It's a shame that Christians can't agree to disagree or that we must find ourselves demonizing the opposition when sometimes there are two legitimate sides to a dispute. There are circumstances when we are called to love one another with the cross in between us - not hurl an anonymous rock while hiding behind it.

    With that said, I agree with my phavorite pharmacist. I pray this break is one in which you'll be able to clear your head without feeling as if you have to justify your personal, intimate feelings to people who are obviously not reading them with them with the mind of Christ.

    I love you my sister and look forward to seeing you in October.

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  6. Lisa,

    My heart is hurting for you, friend. I, too, know how you have struggled & that you are seeking God's will. It's not easy to break out of expectations & follow God's leading. You have been open & honest about that struggle, without being disrespectful at all.

    Obviously "Anonymous" is hurting, and wants to inflict that hurt upon you.

    Praying, dear friend. (And jealous that Lisa the PW gets to see you in October!)

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  7. That person who left you that note is a coward. There was no other motive for that comment than to zing you. What a horrrible, horrible thing for you to have borne.

    My heart goes out to you, dear, Lisa. Whoever that person was, hopefully they will slink back from where he/she came.

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  8. I had the same sort of drive-by anonymous comment yesterday. In it, Mr./Mrs. Anonymous said that I had no backbone.:) I was inspired. It takes a lot of courage to name call while hiding behind the cloak of anonymity.

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  9. Lisa-
    It looks like I am a blogger now thanks to you ;). I would not get to upset about any of this stuff. The Scripture tells us throughout that there will be/are false converts in the church. You know as well as I do that just because you are a member of a church doesn't make you a Christian, anymore than being in a barn makes you a cow. I bet Satan and his workers go to church more than this 'poster'. That is what he is probably trying to do here-continue to cause division. Since I used to be a minister at that church, I know your frustrations of trying to get people to think about THE Kingdom and not their kingdom. Continue to do the work of the Lord and He will ALWAYS reward faithfulness. As far as 'Anonymous' goes...just pray that they will either repent and get saved or that they get broken by God and confess their sins to Him, to you, and to everyone else on this site. I wonder what God is upset about...Lisa praying for direction and wanting to be obedient to Him or someone trying to be hurtful by an anonymous post?!?! Coward, coward, coward is all they are!!
    Keep up the good work Lisa!! BTW-you are still one of the best prayer warriors I have ever met! Love to hear you pray!!
    Your brother in Christ-
    Stan Young

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  10. ...wishing you didn't have to deal with this...but knowing He'll see you through...

    enjoy your break, and know that you'll be missed!

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  11. to put it as my 5 yr old does "some people are stinky.. but we'll love them anyway"

    hugs to you hon!

    and my word! you sooo don't look 40! hope you had a fantastic bday!

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  12. This is so sad. I am sorry that stuff like this goes on. Please don't let an anonymous comment ruin your blogging break. There is more to life than a blog.

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  13. Since I've been on an unofficial break due to my mom's death, I missed the news about your break and just stumbled across this. I hurt for you. I know how you have struggled. It has been evident in all of your posts regarding your church situation that your heart has been broken and you & your husband have been diligently seeking God's will for your family.

    It saddens me that folks don't realize that God is bigger than and so far beyond our situations and that He can use even divisions to further His kingdom. I know Satan has a heyday turning folks against each other. It's always been said that Christians are the only group that shoot their own wounded.

    Be encouraged that Anonymous is in the minority, and that Christ was also sorely misunderstood and attacked! I will sooooo miss you while you are gone and hope you have a refreshing time of renewal while you are "offline."

    Love you much!

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  14. Oh Lisa. I'm so sorry. It's obvious those words were intended to be hurtful. It was hard for me to read them. I believe it is the times when we are not being persecuted in any area of our lives that we should be concerned about whether we are following God. His ways are seldom comfortable.

    Please know that I am praying for you. And for Anonymous too. It hurts my heart to see people in the same army battling each other. The Enemy must be smiling.

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  15. you probably know i had something similar happen on my blog. gotta love the anonymous ones, hey? :P

    i've started moderating my comments and i'd whole-heartedly recommend it! seems to deter people like this since they seem to only say such things to an audience. at the least, if they still say it to you, you don't have to damage control afterwards. cowardly commenters...

    i know it's really hard to shake it off...been there, still makes me mad...but at least you can see that the majority of us still like you. :)

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  16. How pleased I am that you came out of break to address such an issue.
    I agree...how brave one can be when they hide behind the "anonymous" cop out.
    I am inspired by you and your blog on a daily basis. Your character speaks for itself and for those of us who KNOW you, your fruits are evident. Yes, words hurt - but this was a cowardly act by "anonymous."

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  17. I am so sorry Lisa!!

    My husband's message yesterday was on James chapter 5. He spoke on verses 1-12, in a sentence, "being patient when we have been mistreated", oh how I didn't like this word. I want to handle things my way.

    If you need some bloggy fellowhsip during your break, drop me a note....I would love to chat.

    www.cometothetable@msn.com

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  18. Lisa - I am totally blown away...how sad that a comment such as this was EVER expressed....I am so sorry - oh how sad....

    Marsha

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  19. Lisa,

    Enjoy your break and remember that anyone who leads will have stones thrown at their back. The more visible you are, the easier the target.

    love and prayers,
    Flowerpot

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  20. I think your post handled things well.

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  21. Don't worry about what other people think. Only you know your true heart and what is best. I enjoy reading your blog, although lately time has been scarce for me, so I don't really know what is going on. You just continue on as you see fit and let the naysayers say what they will.

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  22. Yes, Lisa! We DO live in the same town! In fact, our sons have played on the same basketball team! Sherri B. sent me the link to your blog. I'm kinda new to all this blogging, but I'm finding it very fun! Have a great weekend. I'll see you around town!

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  23. Oh sister. Sorry about the comment you got. Blogs are strange things, aren't they? May Jesus give you peace and joy in HIM as you trust Him and hope in Him and rest in Him. Love you!!! Hugs!

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  24. Hi Lisa,
    I read this post a little while ago and didn't have a chance to leave a comment...I have been a bit laid up and on pain killers...one must be careful about typing while under the influence...maybe we can hope that is what the anon. person was...
    First on a completely superficial topic...I love the new blog look and your picture is so adorable.

    I thought of you today as we were in what is now our new church...we made a very long and painful decision to step down from leadership in our former church in March of 2007 and then waited to hear from the Lord when many stepped down and left...it took another 9 months but we knew God was saying that it was time...but I am grateful for that time because it did help us preserve some relationships...but it is SO hard...never thought we would be starting over after 22 years of marriage...
    All this to say, that I can understand this tender time in your life and I pray that God will in His great care smooth all the broken areas in your life and will tend to you daily during this break and beyond...blogging is hard...it is like opening your private journal and hoping that it makes sense and that it brings connection and not division.

    I will say that every Sunday that I have been at our new church, I always shed a tear... there has been something that has helped to heal me...kind of like the Lord knowing what I need...the particular balm that I am aching for and providing it in a new setting...I pray that for you.

    I hope that you have shaken the dust off your feet and I am grateful that you have so many that have left you their support.

    God's Peace to you,

    Helen

    Helen

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  25. Lisa, way after the fact....been traveling way too much...but wanted to share something Randy has been preaching in his series on suffering. 3 stages for a believer. We believe that God allows suffering. We believe that God brings suffering for our good. We believe that God brings suffering for our good so that He can accomplish something eternal through us. I so much want to live in that 3rd stage, but it's so hard....well, impossible without His grace (I know that I can only flirt with it because that's where we actually ask for this stuff.) We know He is with you in the midst of this because He is bringing about something eternal.

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  26. Lisa:
    Thinking of you in your break. Hop over when you want. I've broken my silence, but with some much needed parameters in place.

    I love your heart, Lisa. You are a warrior, and warrior's are allowed their tears...always.

    Praying for you sister!

    peace~elaine

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  27. It is nice reading the comments you have received. There is a lot of truth in them also. The words I posted were not with the intent to hurt you. If that was the intent I could of said a lot of lies. Also, the words I posted was no more hurtful than the ones you posted referring to our former pastor, wife and church. I have seen you get up in church and pray the most humble prayer I have ever heard. That is wonderful. But I have also seen people in our church hurting when they were snubbed. You know it to be true. FYI, I am a christian, have been for a long time. It is not going against Christ to express ones feelings.

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  28. Anonymous:

    This may not be my place to address this, but I find it very difficult to not address it if you are a Christian.

    1st. This quote: "The answer is not to quit blogging, which is the same as running from problems or issues. Kinda the way you did with your church." How can that be meant but harmful? You are accusing her of running from problems in church. That clearly isn't true, as has been addressed on this blog and to anyone who will actually speak to her about the matter, but you wouldn't know that.

    2nd: You say you "could have said a lot of lies"? Why would that even come to mind?

    3rd: If you have been a Christian for a long time, you should know the Bible instructs you to go to the person you have a problem with and work it out. It says nothing of anonymous jabs or stirring of trouble. You should go directly to Lisa and so should anyone else that has any problems with another person.

    4th: "To express ones feelings" CAN BE "against Christ" as you put it. We, as humans, are very sinful creatures and when emotions get involved, we often sin. So, expressing your feelings in the way you have is not constructive to the Kingdom of God and thus, 'against Christ" as you put it.

    5th: Finally, why keep hiding behind the curtain? It is very clear you have issues with fellow Christian. I challenge you to do as the Bible instructs you and reconcile these issues.....fast! Who do you fear? Man or God? The longer you let this within you dwell, the harder it will be. To take an overused cliche, What Would Jesus Do with this issue? I dare say that anonymous jabs would not be the Holy answer.

    Lastly, I pray for you. I pray that you heed the words of those who have given you advice on this forum. It is clearly evident that you are upset and bitter, trying to bring another down in light of your own misery. You can get rid of that very easy. There is only one solution and it begins with the Lord Jesus Christ. Do what he instructs you to do for your own sake and the sake of those who benefit greatly from the writings of this blog.

    Matt Colvin
    idd@farmerstel.com

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  29. I am speechless.

    I Peter 3:8-12
    "Now finally, all of you should be like-minded and sympathetic, should love believers, and be compassionate and humble, not paying back evil for evil or insult for insult but, on the contrary, giving a blessing, since you were called for this, so that you can inherit a blessing.
    For the one who wants to love life and to see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit and he must turn away from evil and do good. HE MUST SEEK PEACE AND PURSUE IT, becasuee the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and His ears are open to their request. But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil."

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  30. Hi Anonymous:

    It is difficult sometimes for typed words to adequately convey correct tone and emotion, so please hear me when I say that I write these words with utmost humility and a true desire for Christian reconciliation.

    It is obvious I have offended you and I sincerely apologize. I would do so personally but, well, I can't as I still do not know who you are!

    As far as I know, I have never mentioned nor alluded to my former pastor or his wife in this forum. If I have inferred more than I intended, please let me know and I will do my best to correct any ambiguity in my past posts. Please understand I would never consciously snub anyone, and I am willing to make amends if I knew to whom I owe an apology.

    Please email me privately and we can deal with these issues as Scripture directs. You may find my email if you click on “View profile”. There will be an email link on the left hand side of the page.

    Respectfully,
    Lisa

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  31. Lisa...I'm so sorry. I hope you're doing okay now.

    In Christ always.

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  32. Hi Lisa:
    I have never left a comment for you, but I do, however, enjoy reading your blog. I come often. This whole situation sounds eerily familiar to when God lead us from our former church, we were attacked in the same way. Satan schemes are not new. I am in another state and have never met you, but from your blogs I don't believe the attack. You have responded Biblically and that is what matters. I know your not perfect, none of us are, but we can strive to Christ perfection, for he should be are only example. Keep blogging, when you need a break take one, but most importantly keep your faith first and foremost, that He may have the preeminence in your life, which I believe from your blogging He does. May God continue to shine His face upon you and your family.
    Dione
    Oklahoma

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  33. Anonymous:

    This may not be my place to address this, but I find it very difficult to not address it if you are a Christian.

    1st. This quote: "The answer is not to quit blogging, which is the same as running from problems or issues. Kinda the way you did with your church." How can that be meant but harmful? You are accusing her of running from problems in church. That clearly isn't true, as has been addressed on this blog and to anyone who will actually speak to her about the matter, but you wouldn't know that.

    2nd: You say you "could have said a lot of lies"? Why would that even come to mind?

    3rd: If you have been a Christian for a long time, you should know the Bible instructs you to go to the person you have a problem with and work it out. It says nothing of anonymous jabs or stirring of trouble. You should go directly to Lisa and so should anyone else that has any problems with another person.

    4th: "To express ones feelings" CAN BE "against Christ" as you put it. We, as humans, are very sinful creatures and when emotions get involved, we often sin. So, expressing your feelings in the way you have is not constructive to the Kingdom of God and thus, 'against Christ" as you put it.

    5th: Finally, why keep hiding behind the curtain? It is very clear you have issues with fellow Christian. I challenge you to do as the Bible instructs you and reconcile these issues.....fast! Who do you fear? Man or God? The longer you let this within you dwell, the harder it will be. To take an overused cliche, What Would Jesus Do with this issue? I dare say that anonymous jabs would not be the Holy answer.

    Lastly, I pray for you. I pray that you heed the words of those who have given you advice on this forum. It is clearly evident that you are upset and bitter, trying to bring another down in light of your own misery. You can get rid of that very easy. There is only one solution and it begins with the Lord Jesus Christ. Do what he instructs you to do for your own sake and the sake of those who benefit greatly from the writings of this blog.

    Matt Colvin
    idd@farmerstel.com

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  34. Lisa:
    Thinking of you in your break. Hop over when you want. I've broken my silence, but with some much needed parameters in place.

    I love your heart, Lisa. You are a warrior, and warrior's are allowed their tears...always.

    Praying for you sister!

    peace~elaine

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  35. I am so sorry Lisa!!

    My husband's message yesterday was on James chapter 5. He spoke on verses 1-12, in a sentence, "being patient when we have been mistreated", oh how I didn't like this word. I want to handle things my way.

    If you need some bloggy fellowhsip during your break, drop me a note....I would love to chat.

    www.cometothetable@msn.com

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  36. ...wishing you didn't have to deal with this...but knowing He'll see you through...

    enjoy your break, and know that you'll be missed!

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